Stove pipe exit--cooking

[Bob Rowlands]

hierony that is a good point about clearing brush to reduce chance of a fire spreading to the canopy. We had horrendous fires here in Colorado Springs in 2012 and 2013, stoked by exactly what you described.

Now it is mandatory that anyone building a home in those areas have no trees and deadfall within-get this- 30' of the house.

Gov't in action. Of course that eliminates the possibility of a catastrophic fire from getting started. It really does work with 'ground fire' as I have gone back to places I trimmed prior to the fire, to do additional work, and the 'mitigated' properties escaped the inferno.

A canopy fire raging through the forest takes out whatever is ahead of it, mitigated or not, so I think the law is two edged and really just another typical govt bandaid solution. If you abide the law, you have a property that is not natural looking. Branches trimmed up to 16' on live trees and no downed wood leaves a tree farm look. And also reduces places critter habitat. But I gotta admit I would take that in preference to the carnage of a forest fire, so this is JMO. Massive forest fire is literally hell on earth.

[hierony]

Last year the region was covered in smoke for about a week or two from forest fires. I think I should do my part to keep those down

You wouldn't believe the number of brush piles that are around here. There's at least three piles on the 5 acres where I'm at right now, plus lots of trees needing a little trimming. There's at least one giant pile between here and work, and I'm sure there's many more stashed away that I suspect would be free for the hauling. My (very rough) estimates for wood fuel for cooking were about 1/2 cord each year.

Hmm. Jafo's estimates for annual usage probably aren't that far off for cooking only. The small propane tanks hold ~20 lbs/4-5 gallons; standard residential tanks are usually 500 gallons. Looking up annual usage, the US avg is ~450 gal; a two-person household uses 499 gal; a home <500 sq ft uses 176 gal. At $3.50/gal, that's $600-1800 each year. Mind you these numbers probably include cooking, space

heating

, and water

heating

, plus refrigeration & AC in some places. For just cooking, the numbers I found were 50 gal/year or $80-120/year.

But I'm hoping to top out at 3 cords total yearly wood usage at most (~$600 around here) for cooking & space heating; if

insulation

is good enough and I've the right type of stove, maybe just 1 cord for space heating (pretty optimistic, I know).

[Jafo]

If I remember, I will take some pics this weekend of my setup. I have two, 40 pound tanks under the yurt. You can find an old timey gas range (pilot light, no electric starter) on Craigslist for $75 or better. That's what I did. I actually got mine for free. My brother had an old one he gave me but it had a plugin starter (oven) which wouldn't work because of the power draw so I bought one on Craigslist like I described above, and then sold the one my brother gave me for the same amount.

[Bob Rowlands]

Good info.

[hierony]

Do you have an overhead vent or fan for your propane stove? I've used both big and small camping/outdoor propane in the past, and I recall the big ones putting out some odors. I suppose in your 30 ft yurt, there's a lot more volume than my 20 ft yurt to dilute the fumes...

[Bob Rowlands]

A heat exchanger style propane furnace should be pretty dang neutral in odor, or something is amiss. You should be getting nothing but blessed heat from them.

Propane salamanders used in construction, absolutely suck. I'd almost rather freeze at work. I don't like cold weather anymore. The fumes from those mothers are disgusting. I have breathed them too many years that I'd 'NEVER' ever use one in a yurt, wall tent, or prime residence. Subjecting my loved ones to those fumes is totally out of the question.

[Jafo]

Originally Posted by hierony

Do you have an overhead vent or fan for your propane stove? I've used both big and small camping/outdoor propane in the past, and I recall the big ones putting out some odors. I suppose in your 30 ft yurt, there's a lot more volume than my 20 ft yurt to dilute the fumes...

No fan. You never smell any kind of exhaust nor have I ever had either CO2 detector go off. They burn really clean. The only time you ever smell anything is right before the tank dies.

I agree with Bob about the heaters. I have a salamander and would never, ever use that in a yurt. I don't even care for using it in my garage, but do sometimes.

I tried a ventless propane heater once, and I burned through an entire 20 pound bottle in one night and still froze our butts off in 30 degree weather. Didn't work well for me. I think a radiant heater would have been better.

[Bob Rowlands]

I lived in an ancient 400 sq. ft. apt., decades ago. It was heated with a small wall mount furnace, with a single vent to the apt. There was no smell in the place. There was no forced air duct distribution system.

The apt. was two equal sized 200 sq.ft. areas. The furnace heated the 200 sq.ft. lr/kt well in the middle of the winter and it does get cold here. With no distribution system the warmed air had to migrate into the bd/ba area through the bd door. Good thing I have always like sleeping in a cool bedroom. Back then I regularly warmed up in the bar before heading home so it was no biggie to see my breath inside my crib. lol

[kochevnik]

Gentlemen,

Forgive me if this was discussed before, but does anyone have pictures of a chimney assembly/installation on a Mongolian ger or other yurt that doesn't have designed chimney outlet?
I am ready to install a wood burning stove soon (too wet and chilly these days), but I need to figure out how to accommodate it.

Thank you

PS, if you are interested, here is a link to pictures of my Kazakh yurt.
https://www.facebook.com/truekochevn...97494550365097

[MT Rod]

Here is a picture from a visit in Mongolia.

I'm not sure it is what you have in mind, but it was a common design there, and that was the common tono arrangement. I don't know how your top is arranged, but there is one idea.

I know there must be an easy way to show it, but I am not familiar with it, and don't have the time to deal with it at the moment. Accept my apologies for the inconvenience.

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