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Old 07-22-2020, 11:02 PM   #1
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Hi - I am working on designs for a platform for a 16 foot yurt with 8 foot walls. I would like the walls to be taller so that I can put in a sleeping loft. Do you think that pony wall is necessary given that the walls are already 8 feet? If I do opt for the pony wall, I would love to look at blueprints/plan/sketches to give me a better sense of how to build it. If anyone has any to share or thoughts and tips, I'd be appreciative.

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Old 11-29-2021, 12:32 PM   #2
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I am wondering the same thing.. Ive ordered a pacific yurt with 7' walls and would like to bump up the height.. did you build a pony wall? if so how did it go? Pictures?

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Never heard of a pony wall in a yurt.
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Never heard of a pony wall in a yurt.
IMHO its only an (mostly functional) element of room design - why not in an bigger Yurt?

Sometimes it needs a little bit of fantasy to reach fresh solutions.
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Old 12-01-2021, 11:38 AM   #5
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I still don't know what a pony wall does in a yurt. If anyone has an answer to this, I'm all ears.
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Old 12-01-2021, 11:51 AM   #6
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I still don't know what a pony wall does in a yurt. If anyone has an answer to this, I'm all ears.
It could help to divide the big space into some smaller areas with different functions. I can imagine, that people have other access to coziness as I have....
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Old 12-01-2021, 01:56 PM   #7
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By definition a pony wall is a load bearing wall. Classic example is a wall typically used on top of a stepped concrete foundation, to bring the top plate up to mud plate height. In fact I framed two of them in the lower level of my foundation. 'Pony wall' as the op used it completely evades me. I just don't see how that fits into any yurt structure.

A short wall, knee wall, half wall is non load bearing. Examples are: used up the side of a stairs, or room divider, see through wall from kitchen level to family room in a tri level, backer wall for base cabinets exposed to a living area, that has typically has drywall cover and outlets in it. All that is non structural. Pony wall is structural. See what I'm saying?

So mbear-or anyone else- any additinal comments about pony wall design in yurt plan, fill me in on what you are referring to. Thanks.
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Old 12-01-2021, 03:16 PM   #8
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on the pony wall...
I am looking to raise the height of the yurt walls. That is why I want to build a load bearing wall that sits on top of the base platform that would raise it up 18"-24". Doing so would add needed height for a more comfortable loft.
I already purchased the largest Yurt I can 30'.
I am just wondering about stability for the yurt as a whole if it is raised up like that.
From what I understand most yurts are set on the platform base with just an inch of 1/4 in plywood sheet to keep it on the platform before adding any bracketing.
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Old 12-02-2021, 03:03 AM   #9
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By definition a pony wall is a load bearing wall.
Im quoting the definition from Wikipedia below.....

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A short wall, knee wall, half wall is non load bearing. Examples are: used up the side of a stairs, or room divider, see through wall from kitchen level to family room in a tri level, backer wall for base cabinets exposed to a living area, that has typically has drywall cover and outlets in it. All that is non structural.
Exactly room dividers was in my imagination.

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Pony wall is structural. See what I'm saying?
Yes I see it, but disagree in such narrow thinking.

And with the definition of Wiki, I believe Im right with an wider approach:

A pony wall is a short wall.

In different circumstances, it may refer to:

- a half wall that only extends partway from floor to ceiling, without supporting anything.
- a stem wall, a concrete wall that extends from the foundation slab to the cripple wall or floor joists.
- a cripple wall, a framed wall that extends from the stem wall or foundation slab to the floor joists.
- a knee wall, which extends from the floor to a countertop, rafter, or handrail.


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That is why I want to build a load bearing wall that sits on top of the base platform that would raise it up 18"-24".
OK - I think I understand that you want a ring-shaped strip foundation on which you want to put lattice wall and rafter supporter, right?

In my eyes the term "Pony-Wall" for was confusing, as that is defined by Bob AND Wiki as "a short wall"....

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I am just wondering about stability for the yurt as a whole if it is raised up like that.
I cant see a problem of stability from the general Yurt-building view, but as higher the side wall, as more instability against stronger winds is given.
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I am probably the only one sitting here thinking a pony wall is a kind of wall you tie ponies up to..
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