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Permitting a yurt

I would say your #1 step, to get the ball rolling, is to go down to the county/city permitting office and talk through your plans with them. And Make sure they understand exactly what/how you plan to use the yurt.



Every jurisdiction can have slightly different rules about these kinds of things, especially if you're talking about rural counties/towns.


I see some hints in these posts, but I'd strongly recommend NOT drawing attention to yourself and just calling your yurt a pop-up/collapsible "yoga room" if you get caught. I made this mistake and I estimate I will have spent upwards of $70k to deal with what uninformed, territorial, ignorant, malicious, or downright nasty people in power demanding unrealistic and unneccesary add ons. I could write a novel about this but will settle for brevity: DON'T TELL THE COUNTY YOUR PLANS
 
Had you contacted them before you started or purchased anything, I think this would have worked out better and cost you less.
 
Had you contacted them before you started or purchased anything, I think this would have worked out better and cost you less.

The usual best advice...but in this case that's not true at all. I actually started talking to the county well before I decided to purchase a yurt and went that way based on their assurances. Given what I know now, I would have built a cabin for the same price but less work.

If I were making the advice true, it would be "had you contacted them, and then contacted the state to make sure they knew what they were talking about, and then talked to a lawyer to make sure the state person knew the rules, and then brought a suit against the county commissioners to fix ambiguities in their zoning resolution and won, it would have worked out better and cost you more"

Long and short is this: county (and many counties) have yurts in their zoning regs as recreational occupancy (if it's not your residence as defined in the zoning, which in my county is the place you spend the majority of your time) and one may occupy the yurt a limited amount of time, like an RV. But if you tell them about it, they don't know what to do, so they asked for a dwelling permit so they could assure setbacks were being honored (that's it), and possibly to get a few hundred dollars in sales tax/permit revenue. But by calling it a dwelling, regardless of what the county zoning director thinks, the state invokes the full code book, meaning every accoutrement needed to allow a renter to live comfortably in the structure full time is needed, and if it's somewhere that freezes, there are more things to cover and more paperwork to file if you're not heating it constantly.

It got so expensive (relative to what we planned to spend, not because of ripping things out and redoing, I still build to code regardless of whether I'm required to) we sought help from a lawyer, who said we should have never told the county anything.

Here is the logic, as long as you are NOT making the yurt your residence (i.e., you don't need running water or hard-piped propane/electric heat):
  • In rural areas, chances are good they'll never know you put it up, or if they do see it, they'll just assume it's a tent
  • Deck aside, yurts are temporary in nature and can be taken down if demanded, moved
  • they will have to prove you're living in it as a residence which puts the burden on them
  • they will not want to do that, as there are bigger fish to fry than someone setting up a big tent on their own property without permission
  • worst case scenario you have to get a permit and repitch, and then you can decide whether to build a house or persist with a yurt

So I will revise my statement for the forum community: if your yurt is not your primary residence and you're not planning on having an obvious-from-the-road penetration of electrical or fuel gas and your county include the term "recreational occupancy" in their zoning resolution, and you don't have neighbors who seem like they like to tattle on people for things not their business, I highly recommend not getting the county involved. Or if you do, know the rules all the way to the state level, talk to the local inspectors until they're sick of your questions, and decide if a yurt is still something you can afford.
 
You gotsta pay for them real important gubmint jobs and retirements. And don't forget the donuts and coffee. And new truck every five years.


"Yup it's a tuff job." lol
 
Ha! I had agreed with Jafo on the right way to do it. But that's what I did and it got me in a world of frustration...so I'm rethinking my approach.

I made a similar mistake 5 years ago on some state land I have to cross through to get to my place. Out of precaution I asked them permission and they charged me for an access permit. But turns out I was the only landowner crossing that patch (of 10) to do this. I suspect my wheels represent less than 1% of the traffic on the road, most of it from ranchers going after cows. Come heavy rains and some washouts state comes calling and wants me to fix the road for $100k because I'm the only person they can tie to the road.

Just seems the math has flipped in the last decade. Asking permission costs more than asking for forgiveness. Didn't use to be that way
 
Has anyone successfully obtained a Building Consent for a Yurt in New Zealand, in Canterbury in particular?
I would be keen to hear from anyone who has done this. I presume most of the Yurts here are unconsented.
Yes, quite a few yurts have consented in New Zealand, but they are all NZ-made. I have some friends who have done it with an 8-meter yurt, but 9 meters can also be done. I am happy to answer some of your questions if you like to know more.
 
Anyone with yurt permitting experience in New Mexico? One of the AirBnBs here told me they had to get a building permit but could not go into further detail due to it being a while ago. My county defaults to state requirements. I reached out to the state but did not get a response. My assumption is that my GC (once I pick one) should be able to figure it out, but figured I would check here too. I know I need a permit for the deck but not sure about the yurt itself.

I plan on a 30-34’ yurt for a vacation off-grid get away on 10 acres of unimproved land. Would have solar power, water tank, propane tank, and compost toilet (although may go with a septic system and well at some point).
 
Looking to get permit in kitsap county washington. Need energy code compliance, sprinklers in addition to engineering. Any help would be apprecaited
 
You will need to talk to your local compliance officials. Highly unlikely there is someone here from that county that can help you.
 
Checklist for permitting your yurt:

  • If your yurt manufacturer has any stamped engineering designs, have copies of them handy.
  • Information on snow load, fire rating of materials, and R value of the insulation(s). Find a local, licensed architect to review your platform plans and give his wet stamp. The local architect or a plans router will route them through the system. These services are usually fairly cheap in the scheme of things, and WELL worth not bungling it up as an inexperienced building department novice.
  • Warranty information on materials (i.e. roof).
  • Does the design meet IBC code?
  • Are there any other yurts in your area? If so, ask the owners what process they went through to get a permit.
  • Tall walls, 6'9" or higher at the door are generally required for permanent structures.
  • astrofoil doesn't meet r-value codes in some areas. Ask the manufacturer for insulation that does where it is required (typically only in colder climates).
  • Egress is a common requirement, so an extra door or an operable window may be needed.
  • For a residence or detached bedroom or anything with plumbing, you will also need wastewater plans. Engineered septic or cesspool designs or plans showing how you will route into an existing system.
  • For a residence you will need to show your water supply, refrigeration, cooking means and a shower/toilet/sink. You will need to provide a floor plan and a full site plan, locating your waste water, set backs, driveway and house/yurt.
  • If it is not a residence, then get the help of a local router and make sure it is called something else. Most places will not allow two full kitchens to be on one property, thereby making for two full residences. You can have partial kitchens, but typically only a single sink (not a double chamber) and a hot plate or the like.
Aloha, Jafo,

I am considering building a yurt in Hawaii County.

Can you refer me to someone who can pull a permit for me?

I'm not sure of the yurt company I will use to buy my yurt from, so I need an independent person I can pay who has experience with the permitting process on the Big Island.

All best,

Gloria Squitiro
[email protected]
 
Aloha, Jafo,

I am considering building a yurt in Hawaii County.

Can you refer me to someone who can pull a permit for me?

I'm not sure of the yurt company I will use to buy my yurt from, so I need an independent person I can pay who has experience with the permitting process on the Big Island.

All best,

Gloria Squitiro
[email protected]
 
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