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Old 01-23-2022, 10:34 AM   #11
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709 sq ft, 30' diameter yurt with tall walls. It is located in northern central NY in the Tug Hill region where it frequently falls well below zero (-27F yesterday) and several feet of snow each year.
Using the

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Converted to KW (https://www.rapidtables.com/convert/...BTU_to_kW.html) it means approx. 10 KW
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I'm in Northern Ontario and have lived in a 22ft Groovy Yurt for 6 years. We average 4.5-5 bush cords per winter. 70% of that is spruce, 20% poplar and 10% birch. There is a very noticeable difference when we have a good berm of snow up against the walls. Wood consumption drops considerably.

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Thanks for the explanation.

I need to familiarize myself in detail with how a catalytic converter works over the next few days.
Until now, I was of the opinion that the polluted exhaust air flows through the catalytic converter and the filters inside it just retain certain parts of the exhaust gases.

The situation, that the catalytic converter itself ignites exhaust gases and thus generates heat, which in turn can be used, is new to me - but I'm happy to learn.

It would be properly termed a catalytic combustor


https://www.woodstove.com/what-is-a-hybrid-wood-stove
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Old 01-26-2022, 08:13 AM   #14
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It would be properly termed a catalytic combustor


https://www.woodstove.com/what-is-a-hybrid-wood-stove
Thanks, @Jafo , that helps a lot for better understanding.

I made yesterday an technical request directly to the manufacturer and will share the results, as soon they give more detailed information.
Additional I opened the theme in an "German-Stove-Forum" where some absolutely specialists are present and will keep you updated with their views too.

Unfortunately your stove will not be allowed to be operated in Austria, because the efficiency with 77% doesn´t reach the requirements of 80%.
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Old 02-02-2022, 03:52 AM   #15
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Zelig.

Berm?!? No disrespect, but I’d say you are 1/2 way to igloo territory! Lol. Awesome though. Maybe that is something to consider when designing a yurt in cold areas, a lower platform.

I’ve said it in many different threads on this forum, I think living in a yurt, it’s best to just be prepared to insulate yourself. Pick up down jackets at the thrift store, wear hats and top notch slippers. (In the spring I clean out the wood box and store all that winter stuff: boots, jackets, sleeping bags in the wood box). Many a day I will go from 2 down jackets in the AM to shorts by noon once the sun is out and things warm up. The stove gets going. But it does take hours. We’ve been experiencing temperatures in the -15F range at night, then warms up to mid twenties and warmer during the day.

Since living at the yurt, I’m also experimenting with whatever happens to ones body when it “acclimates” to cold. I’m wondering if - much like “too clean“ may produce auto immune issues and this intermitting fasting thing being just what the body needs (who knows, look how the “fat causes heart disease” idea turned out). But I do wonder if the constant climate control we so desire, is negatively affecting us in some way. If, perhaps, folks who never give their “temperature acclimation system” a work out, do suffer in some way. Look at the sauna/rolling in the snow behavior - in countries often rated as some of the happiest. Causation or correlation?

Just something to consider when working hard and/or going broke to keep one’s yurt at a constant comfortable temperature. Maybe try backing off a bit. Don’t get up and feed the stove, sleep and deal with it in the morning. Saves wood and you sleep better. It’s truly amazing how there will be a couple 25 degree mornings and the next day 42 feels down right warm. All I know is I’m happy all winter and my friends living in houses are all complaining. ��*♀️

Oh and wood not seasoned properly, does not heat well. It’ll burn, but not throw off much heat. You can’t burn “wet” wood and be warm. Can be very frustrating and confusing.
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Since living at the yurt, I’m also experimenting with whatever happens to ones body when it “acclimates” to cold. I’m wondering if - much like “too clean“ may produce auto immune issues and this intermitting fasting thing being just what the body needs (who knows, look how the “fat causes heart disease” idea turned out). But I do wonder if the constant climate control we so desire, is negatively affecting us in some way. If, perhaps, folks who never give their “temperature acclimation system” a work out, do suffer in some way. Look at the sauna/rolling in the snow behavior - in countries often rated as some of the happiest. Causation or correlation?

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This is a brilliant observation. Comparing it to fasting is probably appropriate. I see a lot of people going from a room-temp house to a pre-warmed room temp car, rushing into their room temp office and then returning. Occasionally they are forced to spend an extra minute or two in between climate bubbles and that's when they complain about how cold/hot it is. I try to snowshoe our land every day. Our new neighbours have 5.5 acres and only venture between their door and their driveway. Why do they need the other 5.49 acres?!
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Why do they need the other 5.49 acres?!
For the summer.
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So - I now have more information on the stove from @Jafo and its technical explanations.

Here in advance some links, to download PDF's, from which experts can certainly draw their conclusions:

Cataltyic-Combustor:
https://www.woodstove.com/image/cata...-Combustor.pdf

Specifications:
https://www.woodstove.com/image/cata...ifications.pdf

Manual:
https://www.woodstove.com/image/cata...ete-Manual.pdf

Operation:
https://www.woodstove.com/image/cata...-Operation.pdf

Installation:
https://www.woodstove.com/image/cata...stallation.pdf

Maintenance:
https://www.woodstove.com/image/cata...aintenance.pdf

Safety:
https://www.woodstove.com/image/cata...10a-Safety.pdf

Troubleshooting:
https://www.woodstove.com/image/cata...leshooting.pdf

Parts-List:
https://www.woodstove.com/image/cata...t-Diagrams.pdf

Certification:
https://www.woodstove.com/image/cata...-20-082120.pdf

EPA-Test:
https://www.woodstove.com/image/cata...20234-NCBI.pdf



For me currently it looks like, that this stove is really an good choice (beside the fact, that its efficiency doesn´t meet the regulations in my country), but I´ll wait with my final conclusion till the stove specialists in the before mentioned German-Stove-Forum are putting their thoughts.
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I see a lot of people going from a room-temp house to a pre-warmed room temp car, rushing into their room temp office and then returning. when they complain about how cold/hot it is.
Zelig, you forgot the heated/cooled seats in vehicles! To bridge those formally uncomfortable seconds between the warm/ac home and when the car heat/ac gets going! Lol.

Actually. And here I go again, sorry. I have cloth seats in my car and they are never too hot or cold. My friend has leather seats and yowza.

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For me currently it looks like, that this stove is really an good choice (beside the fact, that its efficiency doesn´t meet the regulations in my country), but I´ll wait with my final conclusion till the stove specialists in the before mentioned German-Stove-Forum are putting their thoughts.
So - after two days without related posting to my thread in the German forum, I can tell, that there was an positive feedback after evaluating the technical details I gave with the same links, I did here above.

Only the lack of efficiency and the short intervals for cleaning the catalyst was criticized.

@Jafo , how often do you clean the catalyst?
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